Taking into consideration the way of thinking, how society was, and the education given to people in the 1500s and 1600s, how cruel was the treatment of African slaves during the slave trade?
To us its more cruel than what it was to them. I mean they were used and were raised to treat slaves like that but since we are not used to seenig that we find it more cruel than they do. which actaully is cruel but it is uncommon to us, for those people in those times it was basaclly culture for them to have slaves. But its still no way to treat people!!!
i understand perfectly when people say that it was different to them because they had different culture that they were educated that way but it still was very cruel. they have to realize that africans were people and even if they thought they were animals it is still cruel to treat animals that way.
so i kind of agree with daniela but not complitly because she kids of understand people that time but i dont they had to take a stand and belive for something better.
I agree in one part with Vicente which is that they treated slaves like animals an didnt care about them being human beings just about money, but even though it was a long time ago and people had that mentality they should have done something to at least not treat them like animals, and maybe that way the the slaves wouldnt feel so bad about it and would have embraced it a little bit.
As we have learned in our history classes, Europeans were educated and brainwashed with the idea that black people were inferior beings. However, I think that they used that argument as an excuse, and that they were cruel enough to abuse African slaves, knowing that they were normal humans that had feelings.
i believe that the slaves were treated in a brutal an cruel way because thiers no excuse or consideration by the way they were treaded because something is using them to do hard and labor work and another thing is that you treat them like animal just because of their race. I disagree with vicnete because i think that the time that this cruelty was going on is not an excuse for how they treaded the slaves.
It was the most cruelest thing I ould imagine. I don't understand how people can treat people that way did to the africans. I understand it was normal back then and the africans were used to it but why did it have to start. Okay so they needed labor but did their owners have to go to the extremes and not give them food and whip them many times. And in the Middle Passage that was harsh how can you go days without eating, not moving becuase there wasn't any space, or sleeping next to a dead person or vomit.
I disagree with Cynthia when she says that they have to take a stand and believe for something better or for what it right. Because Cynthia you have to understand that the africans were scared and feared by the English having guns. the first one to object something will be shot or killed first.
The treatment of African slaves during the slave trade was definitely cruel and inhumane, but we have to consider that people were born into a society were that was normal and right. People firmly believed that slaves were objects, and no one objected. They were educated since their early years to believe this and get used to it.
I disagree with Priscilla when she says how could masters go to such extremes like whipping and famine, because she has to understand that it was how the system worked, something normal in your everyday life that everyone seemed to be okay with, even though it obviously wasn't.
Well, back then, in society African were not even considered humans and to white men they did not even have a soul. People were educated to believe that they were inferior to them, as if they were animals. That is why to them the way they treated Africans was good. They were raised to feel a certain way about Africans and it wasn't even a sin to treat them that way so it was nothing out of the ordinary for them.
Cynthia, I disagree with what you say. I know that it was cruel and wrong but that is today because we see things differently. Back then, they were raised to behave a certain way and to them it was normal, they didn't know any better. It is as if tomorrow someone tells you that you cannot eat meat because it is wrong; you wouldn't stop eating it because all your life you ate meat and you were taught that there is nothing worng with that because you are just killing an animal; you wouldn't suddenly chane your whole life because someone goes against your beliefs.
I believe that the treatment to the slaves was harsh and unnecessary. But many of the Europeans were taught to be unfair with the slaves. They really did not see having slaves as bad. For example today we make people do our hard work and sit back and wash. Some may argue that we pay this people to do so but still we make other people do dirty work for us and we don't see this as bad. Later in life the rights were introduced and that's when this Europeans started to realize that this was not right. I don't say that it was right for Europeans to treat slaves as animals but people should see that the was their part of their life.
Fernanda, I understand what you mean that back then in those days that was normal and that was the way they were taught but don't you think that a least ONE of the masters felt guilty for what they were doing? I just can't believe that humans can treat other people that way. But I understand your point of view.
Considering the kind of education that people received in that time, I believe that people in that time had no way to know that what they were doing was wrong.
But,as many have said,by today's standards the treatment of these people was inhumane at best.
I think poeple in that time were very cruel they treated people very bad. Also i disagree with carlos mella because people in that time were intelligent enough to know that killing people and treating them like animals was bad.
Well, I think that it doesn't matter wheather they had a culture or not or if they had an education or not, they were still human and should had been treated like one. In those times people thought that that was a normal thing to treat them like if they were animals and stuff like that, but if we see it now people think that it was a cruel thing to do and an act of disrespect
Priscilla, I understand what you say. Of course the not ONE, but MANY masters felt guilty. I bet they felt trapped in the mold that society had formed them to like it has over the years in different ways through time. Thanks for understanding.
I agree with Bryan in that the Europeans treated the blacks worse than animals but also one must keep in mind that their education told them otherwise,it's like if today someone said that having a maid was torturing these people, we have always thought otherwise because it's what we know
Carlos I have to disagree with you, It not a matter of education, it's more on values. I mean now matter what they tell me about Africans, it simply not part of my personality to harm animals and/or people, specially if the reason is the color of their skin!
Carlos, I have to say that your comments on my ideas make no sense, again, it's not a matter of education as it is of personality. A also have to say, that Africans back were actually tortured, maids nowadays aren't, they are paid labor, it's not a forced labor and they have rights as opposed to slaves.
Manuel I can't understand what you mean with this question "How can I consider myself superior to an animal when I cause unnecessary pain?" I mean, that type of actions are the ones that make someone feel superior over others, don't you think?
Fernanda, I feel the same way the masters must of felt guilty but only some the only ones that had some dignity left for treating humans the way they treated the Africans.
i think that slavery ,like daniela said, was normal in the way they applied it. the way they applied slavery over people was way cruel and uncommon, but i have to disagree with daniela when salvery was basically their culture because it was not their culture. they were pushed into slavery because they didnt have the amount of supplies or money to survive and since they were gonna be fed and going to recieve water to drink they allowed themselves to be enslaved.at the beginning they would see slavery a plan for completing a survice and then seek freedom but at the end they would end up being slaves because of lack of sources to support themselves or they would die os starvation, sickness, or hard severeness and awful treatments.
Armando I really don't believe that this people would change their way of life just because they see feelings in the slaves. I really don't think that a smile would change any person way of thinking. They had been taught this and knew no other way.
I disagree with Sabrina when she says that Europeans used the ideas of the times to take advantage of the slaves, because to them, they were doing something that was normal and right. They abused of them because it was part of the system.
Fernanda, even though what you said is true, I am completely sure that many people in the times knew it was wrong and inhumane. So they had no excuse to continue participating under a system they knew wasn´t right. They could have changed the methods or approached their goals by other means, standing up for what they thought was right.
Even though, in 1500s and 1600s people were used to have slaves and believe so much that is a common thing and very natural to have people to work for your benefit being treat like animals. I dont agree with such bad treatment especially in the slave trade ; PEOPLE WERE DYING FOR SUCH TREATMENT until that point;they were suffering. And i dont believe that people should treat others that way to feel better with themselves and feel the power , i mean its okay to have slaves because it was used at the time but not that cruel
ivan, i agree with you by the way these sailors or not only sailors but people that owned slaves should opened their minds to find new methods and take in considerations that slaves ARE HUMAN BEING for gods sake....
luis i disagree with you because europeans should if they are treating people good or bad and in the present we pay people to do our dirty work but they also do it by choice no one is making them do it
Eddy what I am saying is that we use people in a way very similar to the Europeans. We use people to do our work and even if they are dong this willingly we are kind of forcing them to do this. When you are poor you'll take anything you can get.
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To us its more cruel than what it was to them. I mean they were used and were raised to treat slaves like that but since we are not used to seenig that we find it more cruel than they do. which actaully is cruel but it is uncommon to us, for those people in those times it was basaclly culture for them to have slaves. But its still no way to treat people!!!
i understand perfectly when people say that it was different to them because they had different culture that they were educated that way but it still was very cruel. they have to realize that africans were people and even if they thought they were animals it is still cruel to treat animals that way.
so i kind of agree with daniela but not complitly because she kids of understand people that time but i dont they had to take a stand and belive for something better.
Yeah ynthia I agreee with you that it was an unfair treatment and cruel...
But you also have to know and understand that that was what was going on in those times and that people were educated to behave in that way
yeah i understand but its still not fair and it was cruel and people knew better then that.
I agree in one part with Vicente which is that they treated slaves like animals an didnt care about them being human beings just about money, but even though it was a long time ago and people had that mentality they should have done something to at least not treat them like animals, and maybe that way the the slaves wouldnt feel so bad about it and would have embraced it a little bit.
As we have learned in our history classes, Europeans were educated and brainwashed with the idea that black people were inferior beings. However, I think that they used that argument as an excuse, and that they were cruel enough to abuse African slaves, knowing that they were normal humans that had feelings.
i believe that the slaves were treated in a brutal an cruel way because thiers no excuse or consideration by the way they were treaded because something is using them to do hard and labor work and another thing is that you treat them like animal just because of their race.
I disagree with vicnete because i think that the time that this cruelty was going on is not an excuse for how they treaded the slaves.
It was the most cruelest thing I ould imagine. I don't understand how people can treat people that way did to the africans. I understand it was normal back then and the africans were used to it but why did it have to start. Okay so they needed labor but did their owners have to go to the extremes and not give them food and whip them many times. And in the Middle Passage that was harsh how can you go days without eating, not moving becuase there wasn't any space, or sleeping next to a dead person or vomit.
I disagree with Cynthia when she says that they have to take a stand and believe for something better or for what it right. Because Cynthia you have to understand that the africans were scared and feared by the English having guns. the first one to object something will be shot or killed first.
The treatment of African slaves during the slave trade was definitely cruel and inhumane, but we have to consider that people were born into a society were that was normal and right. People firmly believed that slaves were objects, and no one objected. They were educated since their early years to believe this and get used to it.
I disagree with Priscilla when she says how could masters go to such extremes like whipping and famine, because she has to understand that it was how the system worked, something normal in your everyday life that everyone seemed to be okay with, even though it obviously wasn't.
Well, back then, in society African were not even considered humans and to white men they did not even have a soul. People were educated to believe that they were inferior to them, as if they were animals. That is why to them the way they treated Africans was good. They were raised to feel a certain way about Africans and it wasn't even a sin to treat them that way so it was nothing out of the ordinary for them.
Cynthia, I disagree with what you say. I know that it was cruel and wrong but that is today because we see things differently. Back then, they were raised to behave a certain way and to them it was normal, they didn't know any better. It is as if tomorrow someone tells you that you cannot eat meat because it is wrong; you wouldn't stop eating it because all your life you ate meat and you were taught that there is nothing worng with that because you are just killing an animal; you wouldn't suddenly chane your whole life because someone goes against your beliefs.
I believe that the treatment to the slaves was harsh and unnecessary. But many of the Europeans were taught to be unfair with the slaves. They really did not see having slaves as bad. For example today we make people do our hard work and sit back and wash. Some may argue that we pay this people to do so but still we make other people do dirty work for us and we don't see this as bad. Later in life the rights were introduced and that's when this Europeans started to realize that this was not right. I don't say that it was right for Europeans to treat slaves as animals but people should see that the was their part of their life.
Fernanda, I understand what you mean that back then in those days that was normal and that was the way they were taught but don't you think that a least ONE of the masters felt guilty for what they were doing? I just can't believe that humans can treat other people that way. But I understand your point of view.
Considering the kind of education that people received in that time, I believe that people in that time had no way to know that what they were doing was wrong.
But,as many have said,by today's standards the treatment of these people was inhumane at best.
I think poeple in that time were very cruel they treated people very bad. Also i disagree with carlos mella because people in that time were intelligent enough to know that killing people and treating them like animals was bad.
I would have to say that i partly agree with Armando. I agree with him when he says that Europeans where educated and brainwashed with that idea.
Ivan its not the time the excuse, its that Europeans at that time where brainwashed and educated that way.
Well, I think that it doesn't matter wheather they had a culture or not or if they had an education or not, they were still human and should had been treated like one. In those times people thought that that was a normal thing to treat them like if they were animals and stuff like that, but if we see it now people think that it was a cruel thing to do and an act of disrespect
Priscilla, I understand what you say. Of course the not ONE, but MANY masters felt guilty. I bet they felt trapped in the mold that society had formed them to like it has over the years in different ways through time. Thanks for understanding.
I agree with Bryan in that the Europeans treated the blacks worse than animals but also one must keep in mind that their education told them otherwise,it's like if today someone said that having a maid was torturing these people, we have always thought otherwise because it's what we know
Carlos I have to disagree with you, It not a matter of education, it's more on values. I mean now matter what they tell me about Africans, it simply not part of my personality to harm animals and/or people, specially if the reason is the color of their skin!
Carlos, I have to say that your comments on my ideas make no sense, again, it's not a matter of education as it is of personality. A also have to say, that Africans back were actually tortured, maids nowadays aren't, they are paid labor, it's not a forced labor and they have rights as opposed to slaves.
Manuel I can't understand what you mean with this question "How can I consider myself superior to an animal when I cause unnecessary pain?" I mean, that type of actions are the ones that make someone feel superior over others, don't you think?
Bryan i wasn't actually comparing the situations as much as i was saying that it is the same thing to us today as it was to them back then.
Carlos, slaves and maids will never be the same, so don't ever say that hiring maids is the same for us today as slavery was back then.
Fernanda, I feel the same way the masters must of felt guilty but only some the only ones that had some dignity left for treating humans the way they treated the Africans.
i think that slavery ,like daniela said, was normal in the way they applied it. the way they applied slavery over people was way cruel and uncommon, but i have to disagree with daniela when salvery was basically their culture because it was not their culture. they were pushed into slavery because they didnt have the amount of supplies or money to survive and since they were gonna be fed and going to recieve water to drink they allowed themselves to be enslaved.at the beginning they would see slavery a plan for completing a survice and then seek freedom but at the end they would end up being slaves because of lack of sources to support themselves or they would die os starvation, sickness, or hard severeness and awful treatments.
Armando I really don't believe that this people would change their way of life just because they see feelings in the slaves. I really don't think that a smile would change any person way of thinking. They had been taught this and knew no other way.
I disagree with Sabrina when she says that Europeans used the ideas of the times to take advantage of the slaves, because to them, they were doing something that was normal and right. They abused of them because it was part of the system.
Fernanda, even though what you said is true, I am completely sure that many people in the times knew it was wrong and inhumane. So they had no excuse to continue participating under a system they knew wasn´t right. They could have changed the methods or approached their goals by other means, standing up for what they thought was right.
Even though, in 1500s and 1600s people were used to have slaves and believe so much that is a common thing and very natural to have people to work for your benefit being treat like animals. I dont agree with such bad treatment especially in the slave trade ; PEOPLE WERE DYING FOR SUCH TREATMENT until that point;they were suffering. And i dont believe that people should treat others that way to feel better with themselves and feel the power , i mean its okay to have slaves because it was used at the time but not that cruel
ivan, i agree with you by the way these sailors or not only sailors but people that owned slaves should opened their minds to find new methods and take in considerations that slaves ARE HUMAN BEING for gods sake....
luis i disagree with you because europeans should if they are treating people good or bad and in the present we pay people to do our dirty work but they also do it by choice no one is making them do it
Eddy what I am saying is that we use people in a way very similar to the Europeans. We use people to do our work and even if they are dong this willingly we are kind of forcing them to do this. When you are poor you'll take anything you can get.
Ana I agree with you people of that time didn't knew better. They treated the slaves on a cruel way because that was part of their culture.
Thanks Luis for agreeing with me:)
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