Taking into consideration the transcendentalist point of view & elements of history, to what extent should government be allowed to impose on society?
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Due Date : Sunday January 22nd @ 6:00pm
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Thereau said that government was like a wooden gun. He also said that whatever is done is done government doesn't need to do anything men haven't done already. I think government is just a scare but sometimes it isn't because if you do something wrong you get punish. The government should not impose so much on society because we need to be free and the government shouldn't pressure or demand so much from society since whatever good came from the society men did before government started ruling.
I think that what Thoreau said about government being a wooden gun is right, but that it is needed to mantain control and order in a society. Without it, people wouldn't be aware of their rights and let others walk over them.
This is why I disagree with Priscilla. Government should impose rules on society because even though we are free we need regulations that keep us from ruining other people's liberty. It is imperative to have some organization that establishes what's wrong and right, and that has the power to punish those who do wrong.
The government shouldnt impose on the peoples social life so much because that practicly in other word takes away the human right of being free. The government should let people be more liberal, couse i trully think that way there would be more peace!
i think that its good that the goverment takes such contro over the eople because if not every body would be running around like crazy doing whatever they felt like!
That control that the goverment trys to impose over the people is what prevents more violance to happen.
So i disagree with daniela when she says that the goverment dhould be more liberal
Cynthia maybe your right, but control can only be limited because if you try to control a person so so much, that person will go mad and explode!!!
Humans are made to be flexible and not do the same thing everyday like robots!
Jajajaja! ok I can admit that it sould not be like the military or anythink so like, but it should have some order and a good method to make people use less violance
order is good:)but still i think that the government shouldnt put so much pressure on the people, i hope you consider this im saying!
Okay, Fernanda I understand that we need governement to look after us but sometimes governments control us so much we cannot say what we think or even invent new things.
I believe that society should be the first and foremost authority in society but also work hard to respect the individual rights and contributions to society that we all make
I personally think that goverment is a necesarry tool in society to keep order and everything under control. If it wasnt for it, people wouldn't do their job and their role in society. Its necessary to that it marks people's limits and boundaries. I think it should only interfere in people's lifes as long as it doesnt interfere with their rights, liberty and freedom. So I disagree when Priscilla says that its just there to scare people, because it encourages people to do good things, maintainign a balance. Also, In contrast to what daniela said, it doesnt take away peoples rights, it just doesnt allow people to interfere with other peoples rights.
I disagree when Sabrina says that if it wasn´t for the government people wouldn´t have a role in society. That is excatly my point people should choose whatever they want and should be able to pick their own role in society.
Thats not what I mean Priscilla. Its true that people should have the liberty to choose the role they want, but the goverment is necesarry to encourage people to do it and to make sure that whatever people decide to do doesnt interfere with other people's liberty and rights.
Sabrina, excatly they shouldn't influence, guide, or encourage people to whatever role they choose.
The government should have all the power and laws over society as they feel is necessary. IT might it interfere with people's freedom but it is necessary. Great nations are formed under an organized society not on a liberal society. People are more organized and thus gain more freedom. When you get confidence you allow more liberties.
I disagree with Daniela, the government should have control over the people or the nation won't prosper thus leaving the person with less liberties.
Taking into consideration both the transcendentalist point of view and history I believe that there should be a perfect balance between complete liberty and total control from part of the government. As proven in the past, leaders that are too lenient tend to loose control over the masses and are easily persuaded into the making of decisions that do not fit with their ideals. On the other hand, leaders that are too strict loose the respect and approval of the crowd. Also, when people are too governed they stop having great ideas and society decays. I believe that there must be a leader that pays attention to the concerns of the masses and is able to guide them while giving them space to breathe.
Priscilla, i understand your point but you have to understand that western democracies actually encourage you to say what you feel and invent new things to achieve yourselves. This is why its called a democracy. For countries that live under a dictatorship or any other kind or absolute or autoritarian rule I don't agree with this method.
i think that goverment should impose rules and govern straightly so it can be organized. But not too much in the way to bother and get in people lifes so much like people have no freedom .I agree that goverment is like a wooden gun , its wooden it will not harm you it will not ruin you liberty , freedom of speech ect. but i think too that we should balance everything in life.
Government should be allowed to interact little with society because it will corrupt it. For me the government should only put some limits in areas such as economy. I believe the government should have minimum intervention with people's life.
Gaby i disagree with you. If the government impose the rules and governs straightly it will eventually corrupt the people and turn their minds evil.
The government should govern the society as little as possible. The government should only be there to handle society’s international affairs and to guide the people, but not to impose rules and laws that might be unfair to the people
I disagree with cynthia because i think that people don't act like animals, and it would be unfair to society to give full power to the government
Carlos. Are you saying that the government should have no interference with society or that there shouldn't even be a government? I disagree with you, I believe that people should be left to make their own decisions but that there should be some interference from the government to set boundaries. The government has to put limits to some things that are right and wrong because people would turn wild. Humans usually look after themselves and no one else, after the things they want without thinking on how it affects others. They become greedy, alway wanting more and it won't matter the price they have to pay. If there isn't a governemt to set limits to what they do, we wouldn't be able to call ourselves civilized, we would practically live in a jungle, don't you think?
Gabriela,
I completely disagree with your point of view, there should be very little government to rule over society, because it will oppress every person's individual rights and contributions to society
Ana,
You have completely misunderstood my comment, what i said is that there should be a balance in society, in order for society's members to be able to prosper without feeling oppressed
i beleive that government should have control and laws to rule a society an to control it. It is important that a society is controlled and with rules to get the majority of the population happy. i disagree with vicente because government should have laws in a lot of things not only in economics to control a whole population
I believe that the government shouldn't be allowed to impose on society in many ways. I believe that the government should there only to help the society economically and judicial matters. Government shouldn't interfere with people way of being. Government shouldn't set regulations on society, people should be free to live the way they want to. Individual rights should NEVER be judged by government.
Manuel, I can't believe you actually think that's a possibility. What you are describing as "government is subjected to abuse and perversion before it can do the people's will" is a CORRUPT government, a real government should exist in order to protect the weak from abuse and perversion. A real government should set people's will a the ONLY and HIGHEST priority.
Carlos, It apperas that I did misunderstand you because I completely agree with your explanation of your previous comment. As I said before, I believe that there should be a balance between government and complete freedom from scoiety, and your firts comment made it seem as if yoou thought that society should be left by itself with no form of gevrnement.
Manuel, of course I've talking ideologically, that's the whole point. but at the same time what you don't realize is that you too. I mean, do you really think that if there wasn't a government corruption wouldn't exist, think about it, if the government didn't exist, what makes you think that people won't resort to corruption. Yes the government id corrupt, but at least it help minimize corruption the people make, which would increase drastically if there were no government.
Manuel, I understand that all types of government are corrupt at one point or another; but don't you think that many of them have done mmuch good aside from their corruption. And if you left society completely free someone would probably take advantage of thet freedom and create a dictatorship taht will only benefit himself. I think that it would be better to have governors that, even if they are a little bit corrupt, help society in one way or another, than have a tyrant leading society.
Luis, do you really thinks it necessary to give enough power to the government that they could interfere with people's freedom? I mean, think about what you are saying, I can assure that you would NEVER, under ANY circumstances like someone to control you and take away your freedom.
VICENTE. so you want a disorganized place to live? if government doesnt imposed even a little of rules , the country or nation would be a mess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OMG Bryan i dissagree with you because you want goverment to just interfeer ecomically and justicelly well bryan how can a goverment interfeer with those two things if they dont impose rules on society and you said that goverment shouldnt get into individual right so how can it be Fair.?? bryan you contradict yourself bryyyyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannn hahaha oh my godddd
I believe that government should have some control over society, but just a little bit, enough for the people to live in it safely. Because if they have too much control over the society then sooner or later a rebelion is going to occure and many people will die.
Gaby a country wont become a mess just because the government doesnt impose strict rules. There wont be motive for riot because people would want to better themselves.
Bryan I am not saying that their freedom is to be taken away but it should be controlled. No one in any place can do whatever they please like. People won't be controlled by others but rather limited to do things that won't cause disasters because in every place their is a person who when given too much freedom screws up all the others.
For me, an ideal government would be one that watches the country and makes sure that what society does helps the country advance towards progress, allows individuals to do as they will, as long as it doesn't corrupt others or holds back the country's progress, and when a decision must be taken, it does what the majority of the people would support. But, of course, that would be practically impossible.
Priscilla, you say that the government should not demand much from society, but I think they should, because society demands a lot from the government. So if you want the government to satisfy you, you must also satisfy the government. There must be a balance.
Armando I disagree with you when you say that individuals should be let do as they. Don't you believe that there should be some holdbacks. Also I believe that it is imposible as you said to reach a perfect nation on which everyone cares about the others.
Yes Luis, I understand you. But imagine you are about to do something great for your own good and maybe for the good of the society in general, but then the government messes you up for personal benefit of its members. I never said that there should not be restrictions, I just said that there should not be corruption and monopoly.
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